remember that naive period when the mlp obsession seemed weird but all-in-good-fun, before bronies swept the nation as the horrifying cultural phenomenon they now are
"maybe the wider than expected demographic appeal of my little pony is a bellwether for the destigmatization of femininity" — me, in 2011, being the most wrong about anything i’ve ever been in my entire life
yeah I thought the exact same thing at the time
What I’m hearing in the comments on that My Little Pony post is that once grown men have decided they like a thing, we should just accept that young fans of it will need to avoid everything having to do with it except the actual source or they will see fetish porn of it.
…and if we DON’T accept that, it’s because we hate men.
i cant believe a large group of adult men rigged a survey to vote for the best animated kids show of 2013 by creating scripts that automatically vote for my little pony a million times i feel like were living in a bizarro alternate universe of the real true timeline where bronies are fairytale creatures that only exist in legends
I know what you’re trying to do with this post, trying to make it sound so weird by saying all of these seemingly contradictory things, but I can very much so believe it, and your point kind of offends me, as an adult fan of animation. Because animation is fucking awesome.
It’s like your perspective here is from the late eighties or early nineties in every way which needs to be eradicated.
I think we should all be mature enough to admit that some cartoons are good, regardless of what age you are, and can still be enjoyed immensely.
The whole adult “men” portion of this is only screaming your own sexist ideals over this sort of thing, which I had hoped we’d clear up by now…
And as for the script, any large group that originated from, or hangs out around 4chan will do this. Like the time Oprah had the “Own your Own Show” thing, and they voted in whats-his-face that had cerebral palsy. (He was pretty awesome gta!)
It’s not surprising in the very least when you put in any kind of thought into it.
This is just your bitterness showing, that’s all. And I understand that, too, because honestly, I want another show to win….
Sorry I take everything too seriously.
No, you don’t take everything too seriously. You take a handful of specific things too seriously and clearly don’t take anything else nearly serious enough.
The fact that it’s utterly predictable that this would happen has nothing to do with anything. It’s still horrible, and it’s still wildly surreal when you look at it objectively.
If you put any thought into it… I mean, ANY thought, if you took anything half as seriously as you take defending your aggrieved sense of entitlement… you would understand that what the OP meant when they said “I can’t believe” isn’t “Wow, what are the odds?” but “How did we come to this point?”
And I tell you what, if you can point out where the OP said that animation isn’t awesome or said anything derogatory about animation, I will personally arrange for your favorite show to win. I don’t have an army of followers or the script expertise, but I will personally rearrange the universe atom by atom until we reach a configuration where this and every other fondest wish of your heart comes true.
I can’t do that, obviously, but that’s okay. You couldn’t show me where the OP was dumping on animation, either, because they weren’t.
You have completely missed the point of not only the original post but the criticism massed against bronies. You’re right, it’s not the 80s and 90s anymore and the landscape has changed with regards to animation. And one of the things that has changed is that you’re not some bleeding edge prophet crying alone in the wilderness when you say “Adults can like animation, too!” and “There are quality animated shows!” Everybody who grew up in the 80s and 90s is right there with you, probably including the OP.
But the fact that there is animated media aimed at adults (and/or the entire family) doesn’t mean that there is no longer a need for shows geared towards kids. Nor should the dividing line between “for kids” and “for adults” be quality. I mean, when you say things like “Of course adults like animated shows, there are GOOD ONES NOW”, it basically sounds like you think crap should be reserved for kids.
My Little Pony is a kids’ show. Does that mean that adults can’t watch it and enjoy it? No, not at all. It’s further a show that’s aimed at girls, with specific messages designed to counter the harmful messages that girls tend to receive from the other media offerings aimed at them. Does this mean guys can’t watch it? No, again, not at all.
Watch. Enjoy. Support.
But don’t take it away from the kids, especially the little girls. 90% of the world is yours. Almost everything in the entire world is aimed at (straight, white, cis) men ages 18 to 35. Even things that are aimed at other people are shaped by the views, tastes, and sensibilities of men ages 18 to 35.
The problem with bronies isn’t that cartoons are silly and meant for children. The problem with bronies isn’t that you’re watching something that wasn’t meant for you.
The problem with bronies is the sense of rampant entitlement. Everything else caters to you, so this thing must, too. Everything else belongs to you, so this thing must, too. Everything else is sexualized for your tastes, so this thing must be, too.
The bolded is why I hate bronies with every fiber of my being, as a mother of two girls who love the show, who also loves the show My Little Pony.
…and I think I may have a crush on Applejack’s older brother.